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Good morning!

I have made pie:




I cheated a bit -- I used regular store-bought crusts rather than make my own. I also used the 16th century pie, which is much more sugary than the 14th century one. (Tho, try that one. You can use regular pie shells for that too.)

I have, in fact, seen the post on the Cooks Source page with the apology. I think that is about the best I am going to get. I am; however, completely unsure whether or not any donations were made either to the Columbia School of Journalism or the Food Bank -- but -- I have made some phone calls to look into it and I shall let you know, one way or another.

And now -- a shout-out to my fantastic attorney who has helped me out through all of this: Akiva Cohen at Foley & Lardner LLP. He has been utterly fantastic, super quick with answering my questions, and I highly recommend him. He also has a dogdaughter named Tehila (not tequila!) -- which means Praise in Hebrew. He totally deserves praise for his work for me. :)

The good news in all of this is that I think I know what my Ice Dragon Entry (which only us medieval food geeks probably know what Ice Dragon is) is going to be this year. Heh. Heh.



Editted slightly to fix the daughter problems. :)
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From:ariannawyn
Date:November 10th, 2010 03:32 pm (UTC)
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Did you hear about the new category in the pie contest at Barony Meeting this past Sunday?

Stolen pie.
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From:illadore
Date:November 10th, 2010 03:55 pm (UTC)
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I did!! That was awesome!! :)
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From:broider_barones
Date:November 10th, 2010 04:11 pm (UTC)
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did you see the NPR articles and wikipedia too :)


My husband - Will sent me:
Here is a link to the NPR story on Monica's article and public domain that I heard last night.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131168884

Looks like there has been some more about it:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131091599

Oh, and wikipedia too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooks_Source_infringement_controversy

Glad you took a stand. I'm tired of my stuff being hijacked too. Off to write a couple "take down" emails.
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From:Wayne Chang
Date:November 10th, 2010 04:36 pm (UTC)

The apology

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Considering all that's happened on Facebook, I'm not 100% certain that the apology is genuine. I've seen some delusional wingnuts in my time, but Judith Griggs could have her own wing at Arkham Asylum. Have you received confirmation of the alleged donations to CSJ or the Food Bank yet? And to the best of your knowledge, is a class action suit being started against Cooks Source?

I applaud you for your strength and your convictions. It's too bad that Cooks Source and Judith Griggs cannot take the moral high ground, but they will pay.
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From:thecommanderdia
Date:November 10th, 2010 04:46 pm (UTC)
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If I were a gambling man I would totaly put $20 on you winning the stolen pie catagory.

If anyone does bet and win, I hereby demand an "idea man" fee of 100%. I am open to negotiation. :)
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From:illadore
Date:November 10th, 2010 04:57 pm (UTC)
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As long as your "idea man" fee is a slice of pie, I accept, :)
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 10th, 2010 05:23 pm (UTC)

Thanks for the update!

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I'm sure I'm not the only whose given the side eye to the "apology" on the former(?) Cooks Source site. But it's an acknowledgment that something went horribly wrong which is better than nothing.

Also, shout out for taking the high road and staying out of the bulk of the crazy and encouraging folks to behave themselves. The internet can be a nasty place in such matters (look up Internet Vigilantism on Wikipedia, yikes!)

Your internet (and to some extent real life) will not be the same. Best of luck to you and keep up the good work! And please keep us posted (as much as you can legally anyway).

P.S I'm a horrid cook so I won't attempt to make your pie. My BF on the other hand...fabulous cook and loves apple pie so maybe I'll convince him to do one for Thanksgiving ;)
From:bobmueller.myopenid.com
Date:November 10th, 2010 05:46 pm (UTC)

Congratulations

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For the most part, anyway. I hope they really did make the donations.

Yesterday I unliked the CS Facebook pages. Today, a friend of mine with her own magazine ran into a copyright issue of one of her columnists. Apparently one of Countryside Publications' mags has stolen a photo, and blown the blogger off. See http://chickensintheroad.com/dailyfarm/appears-appears/, and help spread the word if you would.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 10th, 2010 07:23 pm (UTC)

Cooks Source False Claim

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If you read the Cooks Source 'appology'/statement on their site, they claim that the photos and scans of their publication on their FB page were placed there by hackers. Although, if you look at the time stamps on the photos, they were uploaded MONTHS before the entire Griggs fiasco happened. Starting off your appology with an outright lie to deflect blame and paint yourself as a victim is a very poor start.
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From:creidylad
Date:November 10th, 2010 08:40 pm (UTC)

Re: Cooks Source False Claim

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....Aaaand they removed page 10 (which had the first half of the entry about Monica's pies) from that photo gallery.
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From:illadore
Date:November 10th, 2010 08:44 pm (UTC)

Re: Cooks Source False Claim

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I filed a DCMA claim with Facebook, actually. That's why they took down page 10.
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From:angelcarrot
Date:November 10th, 2010 11:22 pm (UTC)
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I am grateful for your difficulties in plagiarism, else I never would have found your blog and the awesome world of other people who want to know what historical food must have tasted like. Also, I completely <3 your peppy optimism and graceful way of handling this madness. And I can tell myself it's for homework to keep up with your case as I am in law school.... :D
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From:illadore
Date:November 10th, 2010 11:45 pm (UTC)
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Good luck in law school!!! :)
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 11th, 2010 02:20 am (UTC)
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Thanks for standing up for what is right and as a result showing all of us that every person can help make the world better. (And teaching us all a bit of history about Pie along the way!)
John
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From:janusfiles
Date:November 11th, 2010 03:00 am (UTC)
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Monica, I think this is about to start all over again. Suzanne McMinn, a writer who runs a website called Chickens In The Road, had some photos lifted by a magazine called Dairy Goat Journal, again without credit or compensation. And its publisher was, believe it or not, even more rude to her.
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From:Glenda Fox
Date:November 11th, 2010 04:48 pm (UTC)

Chickens and goats and Monica as a Champion!

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OK You are officialy the most AWESOME source for the "little guy" blogger to refer to...lol. the publisher of Dairy Goat Journel just sent the Chickens In The Road writer, Suzanne a check for use of her photo...citing the "Cooks Source" response!!! Hurrah!!!
http://chickensintheroad.com/dailyfarm/dave-belanger-writes-a-check-for-2100/
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From:illadore
Date:November 11th, 2010 04:59 pm (UTC)

Re: Chickens and goats and Monica as a Champion!

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Awesome!!!
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From:chocolatescifi
Date:November 11th, 2010 08:07 pm (UTC)

Re: Chickens and goats and Monica as a Champion!

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I've been reading the comments on that entry, Glenda, and I tend to agree with what more than a few of them said -- Wait to celebrate until after the check arrives, has been deposited, and clears.
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From:chocolatescifi
Date:November 11th, 2010 08:10 pm (UTC)
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I'm not a medieval food geek, so I have no idea what Ice Dragon. Judging from the context, though, I'm guessing that it's some sort of winter celebration/feast. Am I coming anywhere close to being correct?
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 12th, 2010 05:28 pm (UTC)

Ice Dragon

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Look for Festival of the Passing of the Ice Dragon. This is a Society for the Creative Anachronism (www.sca.org (www.sca.org)) event held near Niagara Falls, NY in the Spring. (www.ice-dragon.info (www.ice-dragon.info))
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 12th, 2010 04:44 pm (UTC)

Good Luck

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I hope Cooks Source follows through on what they say they did. Monica, you've become the hero of every writer or photographer who has had their work "appropriated" by idiots like Judy Griggs. Good luck to you in your future.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 13th, 2010 02:22 am (UTC)

Griggs surrenders to our troops

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"I'm beyond words sorry, and it's not just because I got caught. It just wasn't right."

<http://www.gazettenet.com/2010/11/12/cooks-source-publisher-admits-mistake-describes-struggles-copyri>

Isn't it the apology that we are waiting for?
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 14th, 2010 03:21 pm (UTC)

Re: Griggs surrenders to our troops

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Not really. It's part-way there, but the apology I'd still like to see is one for insulting the entire internet by calling it "public domain." I'm not holding my breath, though.
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