illadore ([info]illadore) wrote,

I feel I should quote from Godfather III

A number of people (journalists, bloggers, commentators on my Livejournal and friends of mine) have all asked that my own emails be posted to set the record straight. They're included below.

I would like to be clear: I am only providing this text for the record as I feel uncomfortable with some of the things that have been implied in public. I am pleased that Ms. Griggs and Cooks Source has done as I have asked, I am truly grateful for all the support that I received (BIG THANK YOU), and I wish Ms. Griggs no ill will and hope that this matter can be considered closed soon for all of those involved.




My emails:
(I did remove my phone number and email address from the emails for obvious reasons.)




On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Monica wrote:

Hello -

My name is Monica Gaudio - and your magazine has published an
article with my name. That is my article - but I did not give you or
the magazine, Cooks Source, permission to publish it.

It appears that someone from your magazine took it directly from the
Godecookery.com website, from my article titled "A Tale of Two
Tarts" (including the photos that are also on the website.)

If you could please contact me at your earliest convenience @ xxx-xxx-xxx or
this email, I would appreciate it.

Monica Gaudio

Sent from my iPhone


On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Monica wrote:
Ms. Griggs:

I am somewhat confused that I have to explain copyright to a magazine editor.

My article is copyrighted.
It does not fall under any fair use clauses.

My work was used for profit (while your magazine is free, it is not, as far as I can tell, a non-profit organization,) without my knowledge or permission, and without any compensation.

This is copyright infringement.

While I am flattered that you used my article, it is still copyright infringement, and a pretty serious matter. I am unsure how this happened at all.

What I would like is an immediate apology, printed both on Facebook and your next issue, and $130 to be donated the Columbia School of Journalism. (Which is ~$.10 per word of my original article.)

Thank you,
Monica Gaudio


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Monica Gaudio wrote:
Ms. Griggs:

I would really like to speak to you regarding this problem and how you plan on resolving it. I have not heard from you since last Thursday. If you would please get back in touch with me, I would appreciate it.

Monica Gaudio


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[info]yumitori

November 17 2010, 21:37:54 UTC 1 year ago

Wow. Terribly rude, what with all those 'please contact me' comments and all.

And pretty much what I expected. Monica, you have demonstrated grace and poise throughout this incident. While in my opinion it was unnecessary to post your e-mails (Ms. Griggs' responses speak for themselves), there should now be no question whatsoever where the fault lies in this sorry matter.

[info]illadore

November 17 2010, 21:39:57 UTC 1 year ago

Thank you! I didn't really think it was necessary but a number of good friends of mine said I should perhaps listen to those asking for the emails.

I am really hoping everyone looks at these emails and gets really bored. :)

[info]teffan

1 year ago

[info]illadore

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[info]Nemspy

November 17 2010, 22:45:55 UTC 1 year ago

It's not like you kept hammering on at her either. Your mails were short, to the point, and you gave her time to respond.

[info]Ashley Grubb

November 17 2010, 23:49:58 UTC 1 year ago

Soooooooo rude!

Gosh, I have the vapors! I mean, "You have stolen from me, let's talk about this like civilized people and negotiate a paisible solution in which the wronged party is fairly recompensated and the offender is properly chastened without undue humiliation or distress, on the understanding that it won't happen again."????????!!!!!! Where's my fainting couch? Why, if you had written such a blistering salvo of e-mails to ME, I would have holed up in my bedroom through the long weekend to sob my eyes out, emerging only to vomit and to dictate responses to your missives that consisted of nothing but a string of guttural howls. I would then transform my oversized supermarket flyer into a staggering media empire to dwarf Oprah's, and my highest pleasure and sole purpose would be channeling my vast wealth to crush you and yours like a bug under my heel. A BUG, I SAY! You got off easy!

But honestly, Monica, if only Judith had thought to steal an atom of class, grace, and dignity from you along with your article, she would have saved herself from the fearsome wrath of the Internet, and she would still be in scummy, sleazy business. Please, Monica, continue being the classy Gallant to Judith's crass Goofus, and as for the rest of you, always be asking yourself "WWMD?" this holiday season and beyond.

[info]illadore

November 18 2010, 00:09:27 UTC 1 year ago

Re: Soooooooo rude!

*cracks up* :)

[info]JP Trostle

November 18 2010, 00:02:35 UTC 1 year ago

"She's run away"

... looks like Cooks Source web site has buggered off.

[info]teffan

November 18 2010, 03:02:38 UTC 1 year ago

Re: "She's run away"

Google seems to have a cached version of the page, or maybe that's just on my machine. I have the full text downloaded already though :)

[info]janusfiles

November 18 2010, 00:03:16 UTC 1 year ago

Even without seeing her replies (other than the excerpt that everyone has already seen), I am more convinced than ever that she is getting off lightly.

[info]quizzicalsphinx

November 18 2010, 00:29:19 UTC 1 year ago

And you seem to have set a precedent for prompt, polite responses to online authors.

[info]illadore

November 18 2010, 00:42:53 UTC 1 year ago

Good. :)

Anonymous

November 18 2010, 00:45:24 UTC 1 year ago

thanks for posting the email

Thank you. The other party was making some pretty serious charges on her web page. They were, from what I'd seen of you, unbelievable, but it is better to fill a void with truth than to allow others to fill it with lies. It is regrettable that the other party made self contradictory statements on her webpage and in the press that were wild and incoherent. It is regrettable that she chose not to make public her side of the e-mail exchange. It is sad that there was so much self destruction wrought by her intractability. Best wishes and best of luck. You have been an example for all who know your story.

[info]Wayne Chang

November 18 2010, 02:10:35 UTC 1 year ago

It's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business.

Monica, if you're gonna quote a Godfather movie, at least quote one of the good ones.

And all things being equal, the statement of you being pulled back in is specious at best because that implies that you were dirty like Michael. Nope. Throughout this whole sordid affair, you have been a paragon of grace under fire. Judith Griggs is a delusional idiot, and I doubt that she has any idea how much trouble she really is in. She probably thinks that she can deflect some of the criticism aimed in her direction by making you out to being something less than honorable or civil.

I'd even suggest that she believes by removing her website, she probably thinks that nobody will be able to slap her with legal paperwork.

Your part in this sordid affair is over, and as a freelancer, and as a former book editor, I thank you for taking the moral high ground. You are an inspiration.

[info]acidcookiegirl

November 18 2010, 02:25:50 UTC 1 year ago

Nasty e-mails? Really?

I've had worse e-mails from smaller screw ups at work! You pointed out her error and wanted to know what action would be taken and when to expect an answer. That's called acting like a grown up. At best, you were honest, at worst you were blunt.

Even a short "Hey, I'm on the road or under deadlines, can we discuss this at X time?"

Srsly, bad grammar, no explanation why she didn't get back to you in a timely manner, unapologetically nasty, making excuses, not rectifying the situation in a manner appropriate to her "audience"...she couldn't last 2 nanoseconds at ANY other job. Oh wait, the TSA maybe.

[info]ariannawyn

November 18 2010, 04:18:54 UTC 1 year ago

I think you can finally stop worrying about Judith Griggs making accusations. Not only did she take down her website, but she told her local newspaper in an interview that November is the last issue of Cooks Source. She's done. The story is here: http://www.gazettenet.com/2010/11/17/cooks-source-calls-it-quits?SESS6f0fd580e4826fca3478dc794135dde4=gnews

Aaaaand... because I know you...

YOU should not feel ONE MOMENT of remorse about that.

YOU didn't do it to her. She did it to herself.

All she had to do was respond civilly, and appropriately, to any of your initial inquiries so conveniently outlined here, and she would have been able to continue on her merry way infringing on Disney and Martha and Paula, with them probably none the wiser.

For that matter, if she'd never stolen your recipe, she might still have been found out by one of the other scores of articles and photos she stole, and the result might well have been the same.

In any case, the larger story is that you put the fear of god into copyright infringers the world over. I absolutely LOVE that Suzanne McMinn got a big check for her stolen photo at least partly because of YOU. :-) Check it out here: http://chickensintheroad.com/living/open-letter-to-dave-belanger/

So don't go guilt-tripping yourself about this, ok?

Hugs!

[info]Nemspy

November 18 2010, 10:38:41 UTC 1 year ago

The depressing thing is, if Griggs is in any way savvy she will sell her domain name - imagine the traffic it'll be getting.

[info]teffan

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[info]art_raven

November 18 2010, 20:23:27 UTC 1 year ago

What really strikes me about this, is her continuing to lie and to justify in this whole situation. She claims you never gave her a chance, but looking at the whole timeline, your first email was on Oct 28th. There seems to be replies and back and forth on the 29th, and Nov 2nd.

It's not until Nov 4th (a whole week later!) that you post on your LJ account, and then on the 6th that it really goes crazy with the mighty internets.

So all things considered. You DID give her a chance. A whole week's head-start on this. In fact, if she had replied to your last message, or at least worked with you on resolving the situation, then the rest of us wouldn't have been the wiser, and there might have been a December Issue of C(r)ooks source with another uncompensated blogger's work on it.

[info]Nemspy

November 18 2010, 22:42:37 UTC 1 year ago

I don't think she's knowingly "lying", I think she's actually convinced herself what she's saying is an accurate representation of the truth. Can you see anyone putting themselves out there to look so stupid otherwise?

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Anonymous

November 19 2010, 02:31:54 UTC 1 year ago

Cooks Source's FB page gone

I forgot to save every post.

[info]JP Trostle

November 19 2010, 04:30:53 UTC 1 year ago

Re: Cooks Source's FB page gone

All 24,567 of them

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[info]zanzjan

November 19 2010, 21:05:52 UTC 1 year ago

Seems very reasonable to me. More reasonable than I would have been, under the same circumstances.

[info]Cameron Rogers

November 20 2010, 05:27:50 UTC 1 year ago

Your communication was very reasonable. The comments posted by Griggs on her site (preserved here since the site went down http://www.innovativepassiveincome.com/cooks-source-new-official-statement/) are very unreasonable. Way to rise above the fray Monica.

[info]Kris Wine

November 20 2010, 05:34:17 UTC 1 year ago

How very rude of you

All those "pleases" and "thank yous" just makes you appear to be a mean " ". You should cut that crap out. STOP BEING RUDE TO PEOPLE.

HAHAHA

But seriously, WTF was she thinking? I may have one answer: she wasn't.

I did like this line though (I'm going to copy and paste your work here):

"I am somewhat confused that I have to explain copyright to a magazine editor."

I smell sarcasm.

I would have written it like:

"As a magazine editor one might think it important to know something about copyright laws."

The sarcasm is in the "one might think". Referring to ones ability for that task.

Anonymous

November 24 2010, 22:32:54 UTC 1 year ago

Monica I need to send you an email

Do you have a site or email address where I can contact you?

[info]illadore

November 25 2010, 00:16:25 UTC 1 year ago

Re: Monica I need to send you an email

You can either log into Livejournal and send me a private message or you can ping me at @Illadore on twitter, oh Anonymous. ;)

[info]Erynn Schwellinger

January 14 2011, 06:18:51 UTC 1 year ago

Late-commer comments

Having come to this story via cracked, and therefor your pie recipies (I'm English and have a passion for apple pie) I'd like to make a recommendation if it ever becomes a possibility. Though modern by anyone's standards, Bramley apples have become the British quintessential cooking apple. If you can get them, try them. It's not easy in the US. But try it, for a sample of how tastes change.
I've yet to find an american apple that comes close; and anyone who loves apple pie should try Bramley at least once.
Hope my suggestion is not to forward. Your website looks like great fun - if a bit too precise for medieval recipes ;) - along with your book recommendations.

[info]Erynn Schwellinger

January 14 2011, 06:26:12 UTC 1 year ago

Re: Late-commer comments

I'd also like to ask, in complete ignorance if not innocence, if the crust-like recipe shouldn't be using lard, and the filling one using beef-fat processed in the same way, the name of which I have forgotten. Both were very popular historically, if I remember, particularly since they taste so damn good and don't waste the animal. The other advantage is that lard is weirdly good for us, comparatively speaking, for the modern health-conscious. Better than butter. Weird but true. I can find sources. Of course, it's also harder to get un-hydrogenated. I'm rambling a little due to it being late and my being unable to sleep, also because the internet is mostly anonymous and therefor I am aloud to look stupid without repercussions.

[info]illadore

1 year ago

Hi! So glad to hear it worked out okay.

Hi, I saw the Cook's Source story trending on Twitter a while ago (along with thousands of other people), and I wondered at the time how it would work out. Just stumbled across this page today, and it's great to hear that you actually got the donation and the apology - well done there. :D When I finish work I've got to go read Gode Cookery; looks like there are tons of recipes worth trying there. :3
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