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From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 4th, 2010 10:56 pm (UTC)

Wrong Approach

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When I first heard about this, I was as shocked as anyone who has ever worked for a publication. But I think people are approaching the topic in exactly the wrong way.

Screaming at Cooks Source for alleged copyright infringement is counterproductive. A civil discussion on laws and respectful copyright practice would be a better way of doing things.

Blasting the editor on Twitter and launching a guerrilla campaign on Facebook serves little purpose: The point has already been made. Education is the way to go.

People should imagine they're the editor who has made this lapse in judgment (no matter how many times) and think about things for a bit:

You're the editor of a small cooking magazine in New England with a readership (I've seen different things) in the ballpark of 17,000. You've been taking content from the Internet under the impression it's public domain. You haven't been corrected for years. Then, one person finds their content in your magazine and informs you it's illegal. You now panic, knowing that this has been your business model for a while. You try to cover your mistake, not knowing it would explode into a huge fiasco. But it does.

Now, I'm not trying to defend the editor by any means. Copyright infringement is a serious infraction. But think for a moment about the context of the situation and the extent of the response it got. It's disproportionate any way you look at it.

I am not advocating any penalty, but I'm not advocating against one, either. I'm not getting into that issue. What I think, for what it's worth, is that we need to do a better job of educating people about copyright laws, rights and respectful practice.
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 4th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)

Re: Wrong Approach

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If the editor's email had read differently, I'd be agreeing with you anon. But it doesn't - there is a line to be drawn between not knowing what you were doing was wrong and trying to wriggle out of it, and trying to bully someone else into not only shutting up, but also suggesting they owe you money, and Griggs has firmly landed herself in the latter category.

On top of this, her lack of response (the facebook reply is so overwhelmingly flippant I'm leaving that one for the moment as I'm half convinced it's a hack), apology, or even acknowledgement of what's going on says she's hoping this will all blow over, and she'll get away without making amends. If you're in the publishing business, you're aware what a nightmare, and occasionally heartbreak, it can be to be plagarised. Her lack of apology, never mind that older copies of the magazine (complete with stolen content from larger corp.s) are still up, says she's hoping to get away with this.

Education wouldn't have helped this - her attitude now she's been told what she's doing is illegal hasn't changed - it wouldn't have changed anything had she known beforehand.

She needs to be dragged through this courts and this ridiculous parady of a magazine closed down. If nothing else, it might stop a practise which is disturbingly prevalent in the industry, for all it's rarely this blatent.
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 5th, 2010 01:09 pm (UTC)

Re: Wrong Approach

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Hi there. I'm the original writer of the "Wrong Approach" comment. Just to be clear: I in no way meant to say that ignorance would excuse the offense. My original point was simply that it's not the Internet's place to dole out justice.

However, now that I've read the Day Two response from Ms. Griggs, I have no sympathy and will gladly join in calling for strict legal punishment, &c.

I hope Ms. Gaudio comes out on top in this.
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 4th, 2010 11:42 pm (UTC)

Re: Wrong Approach

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Ignorance doesn't absolve responsibility. Using her as an example would help educate others.
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From:paksenarrion2
Date:November 5th, 2010 12:52 am (UTC)

Short pithy respone

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Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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From:illadore
Date:November 5th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)

Re: Short pithy respone

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LOVE the username!
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From:paksenarrion2
Date:November 5th, 2010 01:26 am (UTC)

Re: Short pithy respone

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Thanks. Of course the whole brouhaha that Ms Moon was involved in a month or so ago was a bit painful. Finding out one of your writing idols is a bigot is very disheartening.

And I am sorry you were treated so badly by this idiot. The only saving grace I think is the fact that you didn't take this lying down and exposed her blatant thievery to all and sundry to see.

And once Disney gets done with her? She will be lucky to have the proverbial pot to piss in.

One more thing? That recipe looks divine. I will be using it for Thanksgiving this year. My boyfriend has invited 8 of the single guys under his command to dinner and I am cooking most of it. I will be sure to credit you *g* sorry, only verbal credit is being offered if that is okay
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From:illadore
Date:November 5th, 2010 04:26 am (UTC)

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No problem!!! :)

And which pie! I love the 16th century one - but the 14th century one is awesome too -- but I like it with a modern crust. :)
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From:paksenarrion2
Date:November 5th, 2010 04:29 am (UTC)

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Mmmm-I can't decide. Maybe I will do both. After all, I have to cook for 9 hungry Army guys, :)

And yes-will be doing a modern crust (having my sister send her recipe for a lard crust-om nom nom)
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From:illadore
Date:November 5th, 2010 04:32 am (UTC)

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lard and butter crust is the best!! nom nom nom. :)
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