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Dear Internet!

So, you kinda broke my email.


I love you all dearly!! I have been trying to read everything that has been posted but, OHBOY, the amount of Livejournal comments have been huge!!

If you are trying to get a hold of me right away for something you need me to see, please go to twitter and mention @illadore -- and I will try to see it there. (Only do that if you're trying to contact me for something you need a response for right away.) Alternatively, try contacting me again via Livejournal.

Many, many, many shout-outs to reddit.com, fark.com, gawker.com, gizmodo.com, slashdot.org, Wil Wheaton, Neil Gaiman, John Scalzi, and dozens and hundreds of others. (Neil and Wil and Warren Ellis! My nerd life is complete!)

But the BIG THANK YOUs go first to Jeff Berry, fellow mediveal food nerd. He is the one who originally informed me about the magazine article. His blog is at http://www.panix.com/~nexus/cooking/

Second goes to Nick Mamamtas: http://nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com/ -- He is the one who originally picked up the story and from there it went viral. Nick's an amazing author.

I am also AFK for the next day or so (I did not expect to get internet famous today!) but if you are trying to get a hold of me, I will do my best to get back to you.

Last but not least -- I have had no personal contact from Cooks Source. They have my number and my email and as far as I can tell, have not tried to personally contact me. I have had some people report that the editor responded via Facebook but it was...an interesting comment and not the response I was asking for. (Which was -- 1 apology on Facebook, 1 apology in the magazine and $130 to Columbia School of Journalism as a donation.) I am not actually sure it was a "real" response.

More later. Thank you all for your comments. Please be kind and remember the Golden Rule. Please do not harass the advertisers.

PS. And remember -- Be mighty!*

*Tagline from escapepod.com :)
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Date:November 5th, 2010 03:45 am (UTC)

You're my favorite.
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Date:November 5th, 2010 03:49 am (UTC)
Aww! Thank you!! :)
Date:November 5th, 2010 03:58 am (UTC)

So sorry

I'm so sorry this happened to you -- but now everyone knows who you are! :) I hope you get the apology you are asking for, and the donation too.

--another writer whose work was once published but was never paid
Date:November 5th, 2010 05:07 am (UTC)

The pin is mightier than the sword

This publisher appears to have been stealing for years, and from some big names, all oblivious to her predations. Then came your blog of frustration, and the sudden daylight upon it, and now a thief's house of cards begins to collapse. It puts me in mind of a speech from Shakespeare's Richard II (which perhaps I shall be forgiven for using without permission):

For God's sake, let us sit upon the ground
And tell sad stories of the death of kings;
How some have been deposed; some slain in war,
Some haunted by the ghosts they have deposed;
Some poison'd by their wives: some sleeping kill'd;
All murder'd: for within the hollow crown
That rounds the mortal temples of a king
Keeps Death his court and there the antic sits,
Scoffing his state and grinning at his pomp,
Allowing him a breath, a little scene,
To monarchize, be fear'd and kill with looks,
Infusing him with self and vain conceit,
As if this flesh which walls about our life,
Were brass impregnable, and humour'd thus
Comes at the last and with a little pin
Bores through his castle wall, and farewell king!
Date:November 5th, 2010 11:21 pm (UTC)

Re: The pin is mightier than the sword

That, my friend, IS in the public domain. Well done.
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Date:November 5th, 2010 05:32 am (UTC)
Thank you Monica for the shout out to protect the advertisers, I'm sure they did not know that they were supporting such behavior. Have a good trip :-)
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Date:November 5th, 2010 09:52 am (UTC)
Thank you!!!
Date:November 5th, 2010 09:15 am (UTC)
I just don't think there are going to be any more issues of Cooks Source to print your apology in. If it were me I wouldn't pursue the matter any further. She might need that last $130 to fake her own death and flee to a country without internets.
Date:November 5th, 2010 11:36 am (UTC)

Can we link to your blog entry???

Hey Sexy. I am putting together our A and S newsletter for the Middle Kingdom. May we link to your blog post on the Cooks Source piece as I think it is important?


Mike AKA Master LLEW
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Date:November 5th, 2010 12:49 pm (UTC)

Re: Can we link to your blog entry???

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Date:November 5th, 2010 11:46 am (UTC)
It really is amazing to see the power of the internet. Last year, I got barred from our local SF convention here in Ireland, leading to all sorts of Internet shenanigans (here and here.) There was also a lot of discussion all over the 'net, and one of these days I mean to go track it all down, just for posterity. It really was astonishing to see how people rallied around what they saw as an injustice that needed putting right. This 'Internet Justice' phenomenon is truly fascinating, and I'm sure there's a thesis in there for someone, if they wanted to look into it!

And it reminded me of a little bit of plagiarism I suffered from myself: I wrote a review (here), which is closely mirrored by another review (here) by someone else, several years later. I wrote to the site, where the editor assured me he could see no similarity of any kind, but none the less assured me that the writer was 'no longer with the site.'

So, if it's any consolation to you, you're not alone. Plagiarism, editorial denial, and internet justice are not uncommon. (And, yes, in case you follow any of those links, I *do* have a bunch of different LJ accounts!)
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Date:November 5th, 2010 12:29 pm (UTC)
Whoa, lady, you are srsly Internet famous. I heard the story yesterday morning as "Some SCAdian had an article stolen" and then when I had time to read about it LIEK WHOA. So I'm telling everyone your story - my officemates just had a good laugh because we sure as hell don't let OUR students get away with this!
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Date:November 5th, 2010 01:24 pm (UTC)
Not sure about the facebook apology, her account and that of the "magazine" were hacked by someone. I didn't see one, but the facebook page kind of blew up with comments.

Your requests were reasonable, and fair. But since she decided to be an ass, her career is pretty much over. Sorry this happened to you.
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Date:November 5th, 2010 09:40 pm (UTC)
Wow, nice catch!
Date:November 5th, 2010 02:16 pm (UTC)

Scalzi followup

Here's a follow-up posting from John Scalzi that you might be interested in reading: http://tinyurl.com/23eyhgw
Date:November 5th, 2010 02:17 pm (UTC)

Re: Scalzi followup

Let's try that again: http://tinyurl.com/23eyhgw (http://tinyurl.com/23eyhgw).
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Date:November 5th, 2010 02:17 pm (UTC)
I'm amazed and amused at how quickly this went from zero to LUDICROUS SPEED. I first saw it from cleolinda's Twitter yesterday morning, and since then I've seen blogs/articles/links about it EVERYWHERE. I just got it on Twitter for about the tenth time, from the Board of Editors in the Life Sciences (a professional editor certification organization), which retweeted a link to your initial post.

This could've been just a case of David vs. David, except that one of the Davids is an idiot and the other has a horde of Goliaths lurking in the background. ;)
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Date:November 5th, 2010 04:34 pm (UTC)
oooh! Y'all are the folks that do CBE? I try and make my freshmen use it, but most won't listen. At this point they're too ingrained in what they were taught in High School -- but I put it out there as an option!
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Date:November 5th, 2010 02:37 pm (UTC)

Facebook response

Here is the facebook response that was given, for anyone who was interested:

"Hi Folks!

Well, here I am with egg on my face! I did apologise to Monica via email, but aparently it wasnt enough for her. To all of you, thank you for your interest in Cooks Source and Again, to Monica, I am sorry — my bad!
You did find a way to get your “pound of flesh…” we used to have 110 “friends,” we now have 1,870… wow!

Best to all, Judith"

It's just as irritatingly non-apologetic as it's possible to get I think...
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Date:November 5th, 2010 03:06 pm (UTC)
Part of me wonders whether it might not be time to call off the angry mobs. Clearly Griggs was woefully mistaken, horrendously condescending, and all kinds of other adverb-adjective combinations that add up to "wtf, lady?" But having the Wrath of Teh Internets come down upon her is just as likely to have her dig in her heels and feel nothing but horribly wronged as it is likely to have her see the error of her ways and make a sincere apology for *being wrong.*

You've been nothing but magnanimous and pretty darned understanding, considering that it was your intellectual property that was stolen and that the Internet storm has caught you up a bit too... here's where you could use your newfound superpowers for good, calling for a little bit of perspective and understanding and calm. Too much of what we're reading now (not from you, and not at all your fault) is starting to cross the line into angry-mob bullying.

The story has become the kind of thing that could wind up with a more tragic ending than intellectual property theft or even the closing of a person's naively ill-gotten livelihood. If someone is as clueless as Griggs appears to be about why this happened to begin with, she's going to be clueless about the way to get out from under it, and with each new hour of vitriol and castigation, she's going to be more and more overwhelmed. We've all put ourselves in your shoes; help the multitudes step into Griggs' shoes for just a second and from there, just maybe, step back a little.
Date:November 5th, 2010 03:11 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately for Ms. Griggs, people have been going through back issues of her publications with a fine-tooth comb and finding ALL KINDS of copyright "lifts". We're talking about appropriating articles wholesale from people like Alton Brown, Paula Deen, Martha Stewart, NPR, Readers Digest and Disney. At this point, I suspect that the Internet Mob (tm) is really the least of Ms. Griggs' worries now.
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