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From:mr_mxyzptlk13
Date:November 16th, 2010 06:48 pm (UTC)
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I'm really looking forward to seeing the fallout of when Paula Deen, NPR, et al. get around to really getting a hold of her.

It's clear she doesn't 'get it', in that the internet isn't a quaint little corner of the world. When the big guns get focused on her... well, like I say: looking forward to hearing about it.

In sadder news, I can't recall the last time I saw someone that much older than me act like such a victim.

In regards to this part:
For the record, I will happily post all the email exchanges between myself and Ms. Griggs if Ms. Griggs gives me permission.

What expectations legally are there for this? Why couldn't you 'publish' the back and forth?

Edited at 2010-11-16 06:52 pm (UTC)
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From:illadore
Date:November 16th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC)
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Lawyer says this is not a good idea. Ms. Griggs' emails are copyrighted by her. (Or at least, that's what the advice I have been given is and what the research I have done also concludes. More or less. It is a grey area and I am not a lawyer.) I can post short comments from them as fair-use but out and out copying her emails would infringe on her copyright.

And it would be entirely hypocritical for me to infringe on Ms. Griggs' copyright after I've been pissed off about her infringing on my own.

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From:illadore
Date:November 18th, 2010 12:14 am (UTC)
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That's true.
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From:Brad Cook
Date:November 16th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC)

Copyrights on emails

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The thing is, Judith Griggs owns the copyrights on the emails she sent to Monica. Under US copyright law, we own any works we create as soon as we create them. Technically, I own the words I'm typing right now.

That said, email exchanges get published on the Internet all the time, and I don't recall any instances where someone has invoked their copyright to get them pulled.

Of course, publishing them could lead to Judith playing the victim card yet again.

Monica, what you could do is publish summaries of Judith's emails and quote a little here and there.
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From:illadore
Date:November 16th, 2010 07:06 pm (UTC)

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I might.

I would rather this just die a quick death and be done with (as I have gotten my apology and the donation) and I would rather not have to continue to defend myself. I am also worried about inflaming the interwebs again.

However, it might be best just for me to publish my emails and a timeline. I'll think about it.
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From:thespian
Date:November 16th, 2010 08:42 pm (UTC)

Re: Copyrights on emails

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I would really like to see that, actually. I think it will be very useful in the future for other editors and writers.
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Date:November 17th, 2010 05:29 pm (UTC)

Re: Copyrights on emails

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Heh, you could post the entire email exchange, and if she cries copyright infringement, you could agree to settle for an amount coincidentally the same as is reasonable in payment for your copyrights that she infringed on originally, thus calling it even. Regardless, by making this public, you've made it a win for the people by showing the power of individuals in unmasking this kind of behavior.
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